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The man that is ruining warcraft
The Zechs Files is back again for the first time in 2009. You guys bring a pinch of salt and I'll bring a bucket of water.
By Michael 'Zechs' Radford
Jan 13, 2009 11:37
The Zechs Files is back again for the first time in 2009. You guys bring a pinch of salt and I'll bring a bucket of water.I’m back! It’s the first Zechs Files of the new year. I hope you all had a good Christmas and I trust you’re ready for a flame war because I get the feeling that this column will induce one.
Now before I get to the core of this week’s piece, I want to say congratulations to World Elite and try and dispel the impending accusations of sour grapes. Warcraft III is a thinking man’s game and WE simply played smarter than any other team at the WC3L finals. Micro is great to watch but, when all is said and done, it’s secondary to intelligence.
However…
What of creativity? What of showmanship? Fittingly on Sunday, Manchester United had a goal ruled out against Chelsea because they tried something a bit different, a bit original and off-the-cuff, but the linesman was caught out and disallowed it. To me, Sky is Warcraft’s equivalent of that linesman.
I don’t want people to think I’m criticising Sky’s ability, because clearly that would be ridiculous. You can’t win back-to-back WCG by being a bad player. It’s not that I have anything personal against Sky either; I’ve never met the man and probably never will. Finally, I’m not just some grudge-bearing human hater – one of my last WC3 columns was in praise of a human player, in fact.
No, my problem with Sky – and he’s not just the only villain, but he’s the main one – is that he’s making WC3 mind-numbingly boring. His play style is robotic: if the AI had been coded to play coherent strategies in WC3, human would play like Sky. He is ruthless and undoubtedly efficient, but if there was an international boring championship, the other competitors needn’t turn up. The human race probably has more options than any other when it comes to viable unit choices, but so many of Sky’s games feature footmen, peasants and nothing else.
For those of you who know your Counter-strike history, Sky is like the old-school terrorist eco rounds – the ones that SK were so famous for under the old money system. Those rounds were smart, well though out, cruel even, but Jesus Christ they were boring to watch! Likewise, the strength of the tower rush clearly has not been diminished by Blizzard’s last patch and so we are forced to endure games like WE vs SK’s 2on2 yesterday.
Ironically, someone on IRC said that SK’s response to the towers had been robotic, that they should’ve hired different heroes instead of going for the same old cookie-cutter strategies. Well, yes, that’s probably true (although you can’t get a pitlord or a panda on LT) but what’s the excuse for Sky and Infi doing the same thing over and over? After all, the tower rush is little different from the dozen or so towers Sky builds in his own base in the games where he doesn’t rush. I understand that human needs base defence – all races do – but has the man got no shame? Overkill is overkill, no matter which way you look at it.
Blizzard, to give them credit, has tried to tone down the strength of towers over the years. But tinkering around the edges clearly doesn’t work. When they nerfed towers directly, human players just built more. The latest change to repair times in 1.22 evidently did nothing. My suggestion is not one that I’ve heard before and it’s a rather bold one, I admit: give guard towers a blight effect. By this I mean something similar to undead’s system of only being able to build on ‘blighted ground.’
I don’t like the idea of killing off an entire strategy, even one as tedious as tower rushes, but I fail to see any alternative. My patience has worn out with this ridiculous style of play. At least with orc or elf tower rushes – apart from the sense of uniqueness – there is often a level of stealth and cunning involved. Moon in particular has a nasty habit of building a row of ancient protectors just out of and orc player’s vision during the night. That’s inventive and it’s clever, unlike piling into your opponent’s base with ten militia and dropping instant scout towers in his base.
Many have complained about the bleak future of WC3 this year but I try to be optimistic. If the money is still there, the players will be too. But what will be missing, if players like Sky continue to dominate with their monotonous, tiresome use of towers, is the spectators.
The world's first and only weekly esports column is back next Tuesday, assuming I'm not burned alive by flames.
Now before I get to the core of this week’s piece, I want to say congratulations to World Elite and try and dispel the impending accusations of sour grapes. Warcraft III is a thinking man’s game and WE simply played smarter than any other team at the WC3L finals. Micro is great to watch but, when all is said and done, it’s secondary to intelligence.
However…
"I don’t want people to think I’m criticising Sky’s ability, because clearly that would be ridiculous."
What of creativity? What of showmanship? Fittingly on Sunday, Manchester United had a goal ruled out against Chelsea because they tried something a bit different, a bit original and off-the-cuff, but the linesman was caught out and disallowed it. To me, Sky is Warcraft’s equivalent of that linesman.
I don’t want people to think I’m criticising Sky’s ability, because clearly that would be ridiculous. You can’t win back-to-back WCG by being a bad player. It’s not that I have anything personal against Sky either; I’ve never met the man and probably never will. Finally, I’m not just some grudge-bearing human hater – one of my last WC3 columns was in praise of a human player, in fact.
No, my problem with Sky – and he’s not just the only villain, but he’s the main one – is that he’s making WC3 mind-numbingly boring. His play style is robotic: if the AI had been coded to play coherent strategies in WC3, human would play like Sky. He is ruthless and undoubtedly efficient, but if there was an international boring championship, the other competitors needn’t turn up. The human race probably has more options than any other when it comes to viable unit choices, but so many of Sky’s games feature footmen, peasants and nothing else.
"if the AI had been coded to play coherent strategies in WC3, human would play like Sky."
For those of you who know your Counter-strike history, Sky is like the old-school terrorist eco rounds – the ones that SK were so famous for under the old money system. Those rounds were smart, well though out, cruel even, but Jesus Christ they were boring to watch! Likewise, the strength of the tower rush clearly has not been diminished by Blizzard’s last patch and so we are forced to endure games like WE vs SK’s 2on2 yesterday.
Ironically, someone on IRC said that SK’s response to the towers had been robotic, that they should’ve hired different heroes instead of going for the same old cookie-cutter strategies. Well, yes, that’s probably true (although you can’t get a pitlord or a panda on LT) but what’s the excuse for Sky and Infi doing the same thing over and over? After all, the tower rush is little different from the dozen or so towers Sky builds in his own base in the games where he doesn’t rush. I understand that human needs base defence – all races do – but has the man got no shame? Overkill is overkill, no matter which way you look at it.
Blizzard, to give them credit, has tried to tone down the strength of towers over the years. But tinkering around the edges clearly doesn’t work. When they nerfed towers directly, human players just built more. The latest change to repair times in 1.22 evidently did nothing. My suggestion is not one that I’ve heard before and it’s a rather bold one, I admit: give guard towers a blight effect. By this I mean something similar to undead’s system of only being able to build on ‘blighted ground.’
I don’t like the idea of killing off an entire strategy, even one as tedious as tower rushes, but I fail to see any alternative. My patience has worn out with this ridiculous style of play. At least with orc or elf tower rushes – apart from the sense of uniqueness – there is often a level of stealth and cunning involved. Moon in particular has a nasty habit of building a row of ancient protectors just out of and orc player’s vision during the night. That’s inventive and it’s clever, unlike piling into your opponent’s base with ten militia and dropping instant scout towers in his base.
Many have complained about the bleak future of WC3 this year but I try to be optimistic. If the money is still there, the players will be too. But what will be missing, if players like Sky continue to dominate with their monotonous, tiresome use of towers, is the spectators.
The world's first and only weekly esports column is back next Tuesday, assuming I'm not burned alive by flames.
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1、不说农民,就步兵。人族步兵根本不是其他种族对手,除了围人,没用!
2、英雄。人族英雄都血少,兽族有2个血厚的,精灵有DH,亡灵有DK。
3、技能。除了MK,人族前期技能都很垃圾。
4、兵种。前期人族和人拼正面就是找死,就说3本,狮鹫,血没冰龙、奇美拉多,伤害还行,但不是非常强,比不过ORC的双足龙;骑士,打得过UD的胖子、ORC的牛头战士、精灵的山岭巨人和德鲁伊吗?不行!小炮,一暴露就是个死!
如果暴雪能增强人族上述的实力,你认为人族还需要造塔这种下着吗?不需要,因为塔是人族前期弱小的防御根本。难道你想让人族选手像白痴一样给你送分吗?看你的意思,分明就是吃不到葡萄就说葡萄是酸的,没得冠军就在这里毁谤!
换句话说,你在这里说人族不好,请问一下:你是人吗?感觉你就像说自己不好,除非你不是人!
So,I say:You are not a HUM,you are a un-HUM!
Do you know?
but i agree with you...hum has to use tower rush. Better choice? May be in war4 -.-
I just want to say one more thing. You are an idiot
Sky - to destroy men of Warcraft .This is how the title of fresh bloody ah !On Zechs I know not a lot of ,But I do understand the SKY .The WCG from 2006 until now, SKY growth every point, every little progress we all saw this, recorded in the heart. Do not know if you remember long ago since the 1.22 version of SKY issued WAR3 later, have been artists, or even a lot of matches in the group matches have been eliminated,For example, the brilliant 08 year, WCG arena did not even figure SKY, lonely eyes to see him, to see China's team training after the end of SKY disappointed when it left that expression. Is it that you will not be touched by it?
SKY is I added the most hard-working players, each time before the game will be very SKY efforts to training, every game will be very targeted to practice a long time, and that black is SKY small books of their own for all the most authentic proof FANS . WAR3 in progress, HUM improve, SKY is changing, because there is no competition for players, only players to adapt to competition.Many people on the attack and defame SKY I am puzzled, if you aimed at HUM this race, then I think you would not say that only SKY brazen HUM will be a game-made T or TR, right? If you think that I can admit that I lost you a rogue.Do not use one of the inferior race to criticize players, to vilify players, SKY professional players, not draft the model, E-sport WAR3 is not the same as PS entertainment consoles like the pleasure of everybody.
If a tactic has been very effective, and has maintained the victory gesture, then I think that there is no need for players to change him, E-sport's ultimate goal is victory. Do you think the Olympic games because of some idiot's appearance because of the appreciation of the audience and wearing a gorgeous evening dress to attend the race?
SKY in the eyes of many people is the most hard-working player, but also the most respected people opponent. Competition exists to allow personal feelings, but you sully China's most glorious king of competing electricity to note your words.
SKY allow HUM flash, let Warcraft wonderful man.
I recently watch the replays from SKY and infi. and it was a nightmare. and to be honest, i can't stand mass tower rush. it hurts my soul inn and out.
To all chinese people, WHY is it always u guys gotta defend a chinese man? is because u guys are tihink you guys are gonna lose your chinese pride? i feel like the chinese are bringing back the communism to this forum. Whenever you guys talk shit about a korean player, you think i care? i really don't. As long he doesn't do anything lame like towers.
LOL
nobody hates sky except me. and everybody hates grubby cus he basetrades. he is just doing what he has to do to win. sky is towering, grubby is basetrading, its fair.
there is a game Grubby vs a human on maelstrom. the human player massed gryphons. i think that game is from... 2005. so its old.
"Clarification: gryphon tower camping strat (on maps other than LT) was invented by th000, im 100% sure about that"
you r 100 % wrong.
i'm back!这是我新年第一篇文章。我希望你们都度过了一个愉快的圣诞节,那么,准备好了来场口水战吗?因为我感觉我的这篇文章就将是个引线。
在进入正题之前,我想先祝愿Zechs,但愿你的战队平安的度过金融危机,实在不行就把cs也解散了,把sk培养成世界上连连看项目数一数二的战队,尽量不让人说我吃不到葡萄说葡萄酸。war3是一个高智商的人玩的游戏,当然,评论这项高智商的游戏也需要高智商的人,很显然,我们的Zechs不是这样的人。
然而......
为什么Zechs能随心所欲的评价呢?就在昨天,国足对阵叙利亚中,国足的3:2仅输1球让人惊叹,但是结果还是输了。对于我来说,Zechs就像杜威,身为队长,却送给对方2个点球。
我不是要批评Zechs的能力,因为那显然是无稽之谈。没有能力,他就不可能在sk做到这么高的位置。我也不是对Zechs本人有什么成见,我从来没有见过他,而且很可能以后也不会。我也不是妒忌sk的高层---实际上,我以前直到现在也认为sk是个不错的战队。
都不是,我讨厌Zechs(不仅仅他一个,是他这类的人)是因为他把war3变得索然无味,变得格式化。他的观点认为:只有NE,UD,ORC的比赛才是绚丽的,精彩的,高智商的,hum也可以用绚丽的打法的。而humer现在的打法在他认为很粗鄙,当然毫无疑问很有效,如果要颁发“世界最能没事找事奖”的话,肯定没人可与Zechs争锋。相比较来说,同样都是花钱,花木头,按快捷键,只是展现再屏幕上的效果不同,NE是一只风德把单位高高吹起,而hum却只能从箭塔里射出一根箭,这可能就是hum玩家的悲哀吧,按照伟大的Zechs的理论:hum应该首发血法,配合mk利用法师骑士龙鹰打正面对攻,展现出一系列绚丽的魔法效果,之后由于兵种配备过于离谱,决战中大败,hum玩家打出GG
对于那些了解cs的人来说,Zechs就像是警拿着43输给了拿着AK47的匪,却一个劲说AK47不飘,没难度,殊不知43和ak是没大差别的,同样, Zechs在war3中就这样做了,骂着hum的比赛不好看,殊不知4个种族是一样的。
可笑的是,Zechs居然说网游戏能玩出羞耻心来,我很是诧异,哦,看来大家以后打war3一定要少出点兵,优势不能太大,war输就输了,但要懂得羞耻心!
暴雪,在过去的几年一直在削弱tower的威力,但是Zechs认为修改边边角角无济于事。削弱了tower的威力,hun玩家就用数量来弥补。1.22的修改完全没有作用。我想,这是一到小学生都知道的算术,tower的价格不变, 数量越多,价钱越贵,这叫完全没有作用?看来以后Zechs家做饭,炒一个白菜需要一瓶酱油,过了几天炒一个白菜需要4瓶酱油了,可Zechs还是没意识到变化,悲剧啊!Zechs,赶紧打酱油去吧!
我不想骂一个Zechs人,即便是像Zechs这样的,但是我别无选择。Zechs这样的人让我不能再忍了!
很多人都担忧war3在今年的暗淡未来,不过我保持乐观只要还有电竞爱好者,队员是会留下的。但是如果像Zechs这样的电竞爱好者还是总发表这样不负责任的言论,,那么观众是不会对你留情。
如果我没被口水淹死的话,我在以后还会继续写下去的!
No one knows what you are talking about except we Chinese...if you want ohers accept your idea, use english plz
once again in Chinese:
用英语,不要用中文阿……>_<
你用中文给我们中国人看吗?尊重一下不懂中文的人啊!
If you want to question his arcticle, so be it. I have no problems with that but atleast be civil and not a idiot.
I dont know how it is exactly in China, but there is also something called "Freedom of Speech" in other countries.